![]() ![]() Remind yourself that shields not only give +2 AC in exchange for an action (and do so right from lv. Shield blocking can't be as good as you wish it should be, otherwise it would blow every other fighting style out of the water! People, please take a step back and take a look at the greater picture here: Those chars seem to be locked to sturdy shields only. Those characters might want to shield block on a regular basis as part of their defense routine (often because they can not utilize an alternative proper reaction), which would lock them down to sturdy shields OR be contend with just the AC bonus while using a shield that provides unique benefits apart from hardness and the related damage reduction.ģ) Characters who are specialized in shields and apart from wanting to use shield block as part of their defensive routine need shield block to work on a regular basis in order to utilize their class feats. druid or warpriest) or who selected the shield block general feat. That is total freedom of choice of shield.Ģ) Characters whose class features incorporate the shield block general feat (e.g. Those can use any shield from character level 1 to 20 as even a level 0 shield will provide +2 AC. I think before we discuss shields (in either thread) we should first establish a common understanding of the term "shield user" and what the shield is to accomplish for them.įrom what I can see there are at least 3 distinctive levels of shield use.ġ) Characters that just "happen" to carry a shield for AC. Up to this point, it hasn't been, which tells me that the rule isn't in a good place at the moment. But my key sticking issue is that Shield Block should at least be compelling to the character as an option. Granted he hasn't had the opportunity to take any feats yet that boost the effectiveness of his shield, and took a blade ally so that isn't factored in either. This is mostly due to wanting to save his reaction for Champion's Reaction, as that saves more net HP than shield block does and doesn't run the risk of taking away his AC bonus from the shield. ![]() We are level 6, he has a Minor Sturdy Shield, and yet he hasn't been in position where actually blocking with it has been a good option. Especially when the class most likely to try to use it, Champions, have a much "better" reaction to save the reaction for.įor instance in our current game we have a Champion. This is a problem for me, as Shield Block is new in 2nd edition, and in my opinion should be a compelling option rather than something that you just don't want to do. So far, we have yet to have a shield produce any significant results, beyond providing it's +2 AC for being raised. an enemy 1 level lower primarily, and how easily broken they tend to be. This is based on the performance of a shield vs. My evidence is how my group has largely decided to disregard shields entirely. The fact is that besides some hard numbers that seem to show that shields underperform at their own level, easy enough to look at I just haven't taken the time personally, all we have is anecdotal evidence. Then perhaps it would help to know what your actual opinion is on the matter, based on what you've heard thus far in the thread. Or maybe, just maybe, rather than my months of experience which currently suggests that shields are great being right and your GM's months of experience that suggest otherwise being wrong, or the reverse of me being wrong and your GM being right, it's a subjective matter of taste so we are both right but have differing expectations which may or may not match up to what the designers actually intended? You appear to be conflating "doesn't work like we want it to" and "doesn't work like it is supposed to."Įspecially because it would seem intuitive to me that if the shield rules were creating an imbalance it would be the opposite direction from what the vocal complaints currently are - shields letting you stay in the action when you'd otherwise be out of it being "too good" rather than shields not being powerful enough. Even now, after playing for months, those are the only significant rule that he has changed. The Shield rules as written are so glaringly imbalanced and counter-intuitive that he had to change the RAW immediately. ![]() It only took 1 game before he realized the shield rules didn't work as he had thought they did upon first reading them, so he declared his 1st "house rule" to make it work as he thought it should. Samurai wrote: ]In my personal experience, the GM of the PF2e game I'm playing in started the game insisting he wanted to use the rulebook RAW. ![]()
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